Regardless of who’s left standing in the long run, it is secure to say we are able to all agree this may be a stellar battle. Nightwing’s extra swish, but Moon Knight’s extra vicious. If these two clashed, there is not any disputing it will be a battle worthy of taking over a whole comedian. The battle was introduced Monday and the group has had all week to invest, solid their vote and debate with their fellow Viners about this road stage brawl. The ballot was extremely shut, however in the long run, the primary Robin, Dick Grayson, took a really slender lead over the fist of Khonshu.
Nightwing took 48% of the votes whereas Moon Knight earned 46% (instructed ya it was a really slender lead!). 6% understandably thought this melee has the potential to go both means and declared it as just too near name. After pondering it by way of for fairly a while, I’ve gotta aspect with “too near name” as nicely. The 2 are comparable in fairly a number of classes and, whereas every do have their very own benefits, they do not completely blow their opponent out of the water in these parts, both.
Moon Knight has staggeringly spectacular ache tolerance, however as confirmed together with his battle in opposition to a Talon, Grayson’s spirit and drive can hold him in a battle even when he is struggling main injury. The Marvel hero has the power to resist a large amount of accidents, however DC’s character will not throw within the towel if he suffers a stab or two. In the meantime, Grayson undeniably has the agility edge, however Spector’s hardly a slouch in that class. The man has dodged Punisher’s gunfire, commonly danced round quite a few gunmen on the final second and has the reflexes required to catch crossbows. He is probably not as swift as the previous Robin, however he is definitely not a snail in comparison with him, both.
Whereas it is truthful to offer Nightwing the sting in method, it is essential to not promote Marc brief on this one. Lots of people suppose he is only a dude who likes to take a punch after which sloppily throw one again, however that could not be farther from the reality. In VENGEANCE OF MOON KNIGHT, he proved he has no drawback deploying strain level assaults, and he is had no situation going strike for strike with Frank Fort prior to now. Positive, he could also be brutal very often (one should be when preventing Werewolf by Night time, sure?), however that definitely does not imply he is sloppy. Similar to Nightwing, he is held his personal in opposition to quite a lot of superhuman foes, too (Hobgoblin, for instance). Like beforehand mentioned, it is truthful to say Grayson has the sting right here, however Moon Knight’s not consuming his mud and his ache tolerance means he can certainly afford to take some further hits as nicely.
As for the gear: Nightwing has extra selection but Moon Knight’s is straightforward and efficient. It is unlikely for Grayson to make use of sonics in a scenario like this, however ultimately utilizing electrical assaults are completely a chance. Nevertheless, Moon Knight’s assaults dish out large blunt pressure trauma (confirmed he can even efficient use truncheons for ricochet assaults), stabbing/slashing together with his spiked knuckles and he has loads of crescent daggers. Regardless of his very spectacular accuracy with the daggers, that is countered by Grayson’s outstanding agility. This, nonetheless, would not render the weapons ineffective as a result of Marc has no gripe utilizing them as melee weapons, too (Bushman definitely remembers this).
Each are very expert, very powerful and really agile. Whereas every maintain edges in several classes, not one of the edges are by a big quantity and and, a minimum of in my eyes, do not warrant a transparent victory for a big majority. An excellent case could be made for both aspect taking a slight edge — relying on which classes you worth — however for me, I feel it is truthful to say both one really has the power to take this after a bloody and fairly superior battle. This is to hoping this may someday occur in a crossover.
Oh, and another factor: the talk had fairly a number of folks speaking about Moon Knight’s powers, however his stats have not been impacted by the moon for fairly a while now.
Viner Argument of the Week for Nightwing is by YourNeighborhoodComicGeek
“I am going to cowl ability first. Whereas Moon Knight has some great benefits of his immense ache tolerance, extreme brutal pressure, and power. Nevertheless, Nightwing has confronted opponents who’ve been in search of the kill loads of occasions in his profession. Not solely is Grayson agile sufficient to dodge Spector’s hits, however he additionally has the superior hand-to-hand fight prowess right here because of his rigorous coaching beneath the one and solely Batman. He is overwhelmed extra notable opponents who’ve additionally used brutal pressure, similar to Red Hood, and got here on high because the victor. In shut quarters, I see Moon Knight holding his personal together with his ache tolerance and personal formidable ability, however in the end, that is not sufficient in opposition to an opponent who is just higher than you within the area, neither is it sensible in opposition to strain level assaults. Add onto the truth that Grayson will probably be tagging Spector much more usually because of his agility, and Moon Knight is unquestionably happening, albeit with time, in a martial arts showdown. There is a cause Daredevil trumps Punisher once they get in shut. Nightwing edges it by way of uncooked ability.
Mentality smart, it is much more tough. Whereas Nightwing is unquestionably the extra observant, clever, and crafty one the 2, his apprenticeship beneath the Dark Knight, mockingly, additionally hinders his talents. Dick will not use deadly pressure within the slightest, and seeing as Spector can absorb tons of injury, that could be a potential game-changer. Nevertheless, that is not to say that Nightwing will not be good sufficient to suppose up of non-lethal methods to take Moon Knight out of the battle. However, Moon Knight makes use of excessive brutal pressure, and outfitted together with his spectacular physique (even with out his outdated moon amp he misplaced), can definitely drop Nightwing. Marc is not precisely dumb both, and even somebody with a gifted thoughts like Grayson’s can fall to Moon Knight’s concern issue, like Taskmaster did. Initially, I am giving the sting to Moon Knight, but when Spector would not take out Grayson out fast within the battle, Grayson would have considered a number of options to the battle with out killing anybody.
Shifting on to devices and tools, Nightwing arsenal is the plain victor on this for my part. From his extraordinarily sturdy escrima sticks that emit excessive voltages to numerous forms of pellets and batarangs, Nightwing’s devices rival that of Batman himself. In Winick’sOutsiders run, Nightwing confirmed that he had entry to Kryptonite, and whereas that is not relevant on this battle, it reveals simply how resourceful he could be. That being mentioned, Grayson would not precisely make the most of them on a regular basis in fights, and that has and could be his downfall a lot of occasions in comics. Moon Knight, though doesn’t have as many devices, tends to make use of them extra usually than Grayson does, normally with extraordinarily vicious strategies. For instance, he has no qualms about mutilating Bushman’s face, or slicing his throat with an precisely thrown crescent dart. Once more, this could flip the tide of the battle rapidly in Spector’s favor. Relating to their private fits, they’re about the identical so far as I am involved. Each have in depth kevlar and are resistant to numerous forms of damages. I do not suppose anybody edges this. Tie.
It is a powerful battle that will or could not final a prolonged time, however Nightwing ought to be the victor of this battle 6, and arguably even 7 out of 10 occasions. He has the ability, mind, and assets wanted to beat Moon Knight’s ache tolerance and brutality.”
And what does the mighty Comedian Vine author, Corey “Undeadpool” Schroeder, consider this one?
“Gotham…I can not imagine I am nonetheless in Gotham…
Marc Spector stared out over the cityscape, sighing and checking his gear, most of which was nonetheless intact. Wherever he was, he nonetheless felt the whisper of Khonshu at the back of his thoughts. Guiding. Urging. And now screaming. He dug his fingernails into his scalp as he realized the scream wasn’t from his god, however from a close-by alley. He stalked throughout the rooftops, peering over the sting at a pair being menaced by a bunch of males. He did not even hear their phrases as he descended and, snarling, leaped at one in every of them, slamming him in opposition to one of many alley partitions, selecting up a garbage can and smashing it in opposition to his head. He heard threats, however the voices had been far off and his arms moved of their very own accord, snatching a knife from one in every of their arms, jamming it into his thigh. He caught nonetheless one other punch and kicked backward, bending the person’s knee the flawed means. The ultimate one backed off, exhibiting his empty arms. He was saying one thing, however Moon Knight could not hear him as he grabbed his neck and slammed his spiked fist into his face as soon as…twice…an influence in the back of his head had him spin round and search for. There crouched a person in black armor with a purple streak throughout it.
“Hey David Duke! I feel he is had sufficient.” he flipped ahead onto the bottom, twirling his escrima sticks garishly.”This does not concern you…these males are an providing to Khonshu!””Oh…kay…not conversant in that one. Why do not we now have a pleasant discuss him and let these people-” Nightwing reached towards him solely to have his hand batted away and the unusual man within the white hood retreating again and readying, “I might actually reasonably not do this-” however the stranger lunged ahead, drawing crescent blades in his arms and slashing throughout Nightwing’s chest. Ah hell, it is Azrael’s knife fingers yet again…The boy was no mere road powerful as he dodged and caught Moon Knight’s each strike, ultimately abandoning his failed diplomacy to strike again. He knew his strain factors nicely, and his sticks despatched electrical shocks by way of Spector’s physique. However what he did not rely on was the tenacity that got here from his expertise, his insanity and his god. It doesn’t matter what Nightwing did, the person would no keep down. And for each two hits he scored on him, he took one, and his ache tolerance was clearly not as excessive. The agile Grayson discovered himself slowing, whereas his shiny white foe was solely getting began. Finally, the tempo turned and even escape was inconceivable as Moon Knight was simply as harmful together with his tools from a distance as he was up shut. Nightwing struggled away, however Spector closed the gap, panting and muttering to no matter god he stored invoking. He raised his hand as Grayson collapsed however discovered it rapidly certain by a line and grapple. He whipped his head round to a lady clad in black armor with a shock of purple hair flowing from the again of her cowl.
“Alright, white knight! How do you’re feeling about spherical two?!” she demanded, her eyes flashing with dedication and rage.”
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